Jan 10 2011

Stolen Gibson Les Paul ’58 Reissue in Las Vegas

A Gibson Les Paul ’58 Reissue was stolen during the New Year street celebration on Freemont Street, at the 3rd Street stage.

It is Trans Amber over a Flame Maple top

Serial Number: 8-1964

Las Vegas, NV Police Report number: LLV110101003484

Las Vegas Police Department
(702) 828-3687

Keep an eye out.

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This equipment has been reported stolen. If you see these items, think of your safety first. We advise you not to purchase the item from anyone claiming to be the owner. If you feel safe with pursuing it further, contact your local law enforcement, referencing the above case number.


Jan 31 2010

Stolen Billy Gibbons Les Paul VOS in Southfield MI area

A Gibson Les Paul Billy Gibbons Pearly Gates VOS was stolen in the Southfield MI area on January 17th, 2010.

Serial Number is BG033. It was taken without a case.

The theft has been reported to the Southfield MI police. Case number 10/2629.

Keep an eye out.

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This equipment has been reported stolen. If you see these items, think of your safety first. We advise you not to purchase the item from anyone claiming to be the owner. If you feel safe with pursuing it further, contact your local law enforcement, referencing the above case number.


Sep 30 2009

Stolen Paul Reed Smiths in Webster TX area (June 27, 2008)

The following were stolen from a retail store in the Webster TX area in June of 2008.

As of 09-30-09 Webster Police had the case listed as Inactive.

One guitar was recovered, but the rest are still at large.

PRS CST22      Tortoise Shell      Serial Number 131080
PRS CST24     Whale Blue    Serial Number 130381
PRS CST24    Vintage Nat.    Serial Number 131***    *RECOVERED*
Gibson Les Paul Classic  Gold Bullion     Serial Number 073767

Police Report 08-01774

Contact Webster TX Police Department (281) 332-2426

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Aug 31 2009

Stolen Les Paul Classic From a Venue in Orland Park, IL

Gibson Les Paul Classic – Vintage Sunburst

Serial Number 064429

Police Report 09-7044

Contact Orland Park, IL Police Department (708) 349-4111

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This equipment has been reported stolen. If you see these items, think of your safety first. We advise you not to purchase the item from anyone claiming to be the owner. If you feel safe with pursuing it further, contact your local law enforcement, referencing the above case number.

Our goal at Gearsecure.net has always been to have a web site that serves both community and business, and gives greater functionality and exposure to our core purpose of loss prevention and recovery. The site as it exists now has been successful at developing community and awareness, but it is now time to take the next step and build our planned web application. We need your help in funding this, and our exposure in the industry. We’re asking for a small donation of only $5 towards our goal of $5,000. Click the “Donate” button to give via paypal.


Aug 3 2009

Counterfeit Chinese Les Paul Alert

A post in a forum lining to us (thanks for linking to our article, by the way) led me to a new source for counterfeit Les Pauls. I’m going to focus on two, a white Custom and a Zakk Wylde, but this site has all sorts of Les Paul knock-offs. Like usual, I don’t want to send anybody to this site, so I’ll keep the name a secret to everybody but the trademark holder.

Here’s the white Les Paul:

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Looks fairly good, though the back bout is a little wonky maybe. It is hard to tell, but it looks like regular tolex to me, instead of the Gibson snakeskin. The writing looks a little blurry on the case, but that could be the low quality image. Let’s look at another.

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Again, I think the back bout is a bit off, and I don’t recognize that Gibson sticker as anything recent. The red smudge is where I blurred the seller’s logo. Often times, the binding on these guitars will not have the proper number of layers, but we can’t tell that from this image. The biggest giveaway is coming.

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Gibson serial numbers are stamped into the wood and painted over, with the exception of several Reissue models, which use stamped paint. The paint on these is usually irregular, splotchy and a little off of a perfectly level line. On a painted white Les Paul, the serial number is hardly legible. If we try to decode the serial number, we find it was made on the 200th day of ’05 and then we come up a digit short, since after July of 2005, they went to a 9 digit serial number.

Time to check out the Zakk

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The bulls-eye is in the right place. Case is still obviously not a Gibson.

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Serial number is just a few off of the last guitar. Hmmm… Let’s move down the neck a bit.

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Wait, is that a nice shiny finish on the back of the neck? Zakks are finished, then the back of the neck is sanded to raw wood.

This site sells these guitars for $374, about the same as a medium end Epiphone Les Paul. I saw one of these on a classified site (actually identified as a copy) for over $700, just so you know the markup on the counterfeit you’re buying from that guy.  For $375, you get a questionable guitar with no warranty and no one to stand behind its craftsmanship. Better to go with the real deal.


Jul 23 2009

Counterfeit Gibson Les Paul Zakk Wylde Green

We have a report of a counterfeit Gibson Zakk Wylde Signature Green. While we have no photos, we have some very good description of the guitar.

In this particular instance, the things that tipped off the store that reported it were the fine details.

- The truss rod cover was “not right” but close.

- The Gibson Logo wasn’t slanted like an authentic Gibson.

- The neck and headstock didn’t have the same angle as an authentic Gibson.

In this case, two people were trying to sell this guitar to a store. If the store hadn’t noticed, it would have lost a lot of money buying a worthless guitar.


May 9 2009

Gibson Serial Numbers 1977-present

This information and more can be found in our Gearwiki. Care to contribute your own knowledge?

Gibson has been in business for over a hundred years, and has used several serial number systems in that time, many of which had inconsistencies which make accurate date identification tricky. Often other considerations must be taken into account. We’ll cover those as we come to them. In this article, we’re going to cover the current serial number format, in use since 1977. This system is in place across the board in all production facilities. This borrows heavily from the serial number guides on the Gibson sit, from the Blue Book, and other web sources.

For instruments built before 2005, The serial number is an 8 digit number impressed into the back of the headstock with “MADE IN USA” below. The Serial number is stamped before the finish is applied and is pressed into the wood. Often, a thick coating of paint and lacquer will make the serial number difficult to read. If you see plain wood through the serial number, it was stamped after finishing, and likely a counterfeit.

The pattern is:
YDDDYRRR

YY is the production year
DDD is the day of the year counted 1-365 (or 366 for leap year)
RRR is the factory ranking/plant designation number.

Continue reading


Apr 1 2009

Counterfeit Alert: Fake Gibson 1954 Goldtop Reissue

Whether you are in the business of buying and selling used or vintage musical instruments or just a collector looking for the guitar that will fill that void in your soul, before you make a purchase take a deep breath and thoroughly examine the piece. There are people out there that want to take your money and leave you with an albatross around your neck.

'54 Custom Shop Reissue?

'54 Custom Shop Reissue?

Here is our counterfeit beside a real Gibson Custom Shop Les Paul. In this case it is a ’56 Reissue, but not everyone has a ’54 Reissue just lying around.

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Note the difference in color. The counterfeit on the left has a thin, greenish tint, similar to some Epiphone Les Pauls. Not comparable to the deep gold color of the genuine Gibson.

Have a look at the bridge. From a distance the difference is obvious. A less expensive single PRS style bridge has replaced the two-piece Gibson VOS bridge we see on the real thing.

Those are the most immediately visible clues. Dig a little deeper and a host of problems pop up.

Here is a side-by-side comparison of the back of each headstock:

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1. Serial Number – There are a couple of problems here. First, the syntax on the fake is completely wrong. Gibson is very specific about the way it puts serial numbers on its guitars. But that is trivial compared to the fact that the serial number on the right was added after the finish was applied. This resulted in an unprofessional, rough outline. The genuine guitar has a serial number that was added prior to the lacquer finish.
2. Made in USA –  This does not appear on the genuine guitar, and where Gibson does put this phrase it appears lower on the headstock.
3. Craftsmanship – Many of the issues boil down to craftsmanship. Gibson has it, Fakes-R-Us doesn’t. Gibson takes great care to ensure that each guitar that it puts its name on lives up to certain standards. The craftsmanship that produced the sloppy alignment of the non-Gibson tuning heads (below) would not pass their quality control.

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Now lets flip the guitars over and have a look at the front.

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One thing that you can’t tell from the photographs is the substandard fretwork. As you run a finger down the side of the neck the protruding frets are a big giveaway. On closer examination you can see that the binding on the real Custom Shop carries up over the end of the fret, something the counterfeiters are pretty sure you won’t notice.

Another subtle clue is the difference in the color of the inlays on the fretboard.

As if these details weren’t enough, the genuine Gibson is comprised of two solid pieces of wood. The knock off seems to have been pieced together by laminating whatever scrap lumber happened to be lying around.

In fact there were so many flaws in the wood, I’m just going to give a “Best Of”….

Laminate back on counterfeit Gibson

Laminate back on counterfeit Gibson

There is a solid line all the way around the back of the guitar (above), indicating that a solid piece of wood was glued on to the back. Obviously the counterfeiters knew they were cutting corners here.

Here are a couple more choice examples:

Laminate seam near neck strap button

Laminate seam near neck strap button

Laminate seam in cutaway

Laminate seam in cutaway

And the pièce de résistance, I have never seen a Gibson with a knot like this:

Knot. A big knot.

Knot. A big knot.

On first look some may see what they want to see. If someone says they are selling a ’54 Custom Shop Reissue we would like to take their word for it. That is how this buyer ended up spending $1000 for a cheap Chinese knock off.

To put a little lemon juice on the wound, they can’t even sell the counterfeit for a few hundred bucks to recoup a small part of their losses. That would violate US trademark law and turn this unfortunate purchase into a bigger nightmare.

Before you lay down your hard earned cash, take the time to go over every inch of your potential purchase. If you have questions, ask. If you don’t know, find out. If something looks wrong, pass on it.

Better to have nothing at all than an extremely expensive piece of firewood.

If you know of other counterfeit instruments of any sort out there, or know of a website or eBay seller of counterfeit instruments, please let Gearsecure know by sending email to bryan@gearsecure.net. We are dedicated to personal loss prevention. You can also follow us at twitter.com/gearsecure, myspace.com/gearsecure, and facebook.

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Feb 27 2009

Stolen From a Store in Villa Park, IL

Location: A Retail store in Villa Park IL

Type of Equipment: Gibson Les Paul Axcess
Serial Number: CS87141
Notes: Taken without case. This was taken by the Traveler group of thieves. In New Condition.

Contact:
Villa Park Police
Officer D. Campos
630.834.7447

Case # 090222003695

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This instrument has been reported stolen. If you see this instrument, think of your safety first. We advise you not to purchase the item from anyone claiming to be the owner. If you feel safe with pursuing it further, contact your local law enforcement, referencing the above case number.


Jan 12 2009

Stolen From a store in San Antonio

Update: As of 09-24-09 San Antonio listed this case as Open.

These instruments are still considered to be stolen property.

Location: San Antonio, TX

Item: Musicman Luke Bahama Family Reserve
Serial Number: G42118
Note: Taken Without case

Item: Gibson Les Paul Standard Traditional Desert Burst
Serial Number: 012880445
Note: Taken without case

Item: Shechter 1604 Damien FR Black
Serial Number: 0704916

Item: Gibson Les Paul Double Cut Cherry Sunburst
Serial Number: 006770354
Note: Taken without case

Item: Cordoba 45FCE Acoustic-electric Flamenco Thinbody
Serial Number: 93109
Note: Taken without case

Item: Musicman Single Hum Pearl Black PG Sapphre Burst
Serial Number: G41969
Note: Taken without case

Location: Taken from a retail store
Time Frame: Between Late November and January

Contact: San Antonio Police Department
(210) 550-6946
Case Number: 90024781
Reported: 01-12-08

This instrument has been reported stolen. If you see this instrument, think of your safety first. We advise you not to purchase the item from anyone claiming to be the owner. If you feel safe with pursuing it further, contact your local law enforcement, referencing the above case number.

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